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John Edward

John Edward[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Male 1882 - 1965  (83 years)

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  • Name John Edward 
    Born 23 Mar 1882  Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 7, 8
    Gender Male 
    Education Between 16 Aug 1895 and May 1897  Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Address:
    The Sobraon 
    • On 16th August 1895, John was admitted to The Sobraon - a ship that served as an all-boy public industrial school along with The Vernon (which was replaced by the Sobraon in 1892) and both were moored in Sydney Harbour during their use from 1867-1911.

      Boys under the age of 16 were sent to these schools by Justices of the Peace. The children would remain there until they were apprenticed out after the age of 12, discharged, or reached 18 years of age. The schools included religious instruction, moral, industrial, and nautical training, as well as elementary schooling.

      The warrant for John's committal states that he was found to be habitually wandering about the streets in no * lawful occupation. Further stated that he was found wandering about in company with convicted thieves & other bad characters.

      His mother, Amy had written to say she made a mistake giving his religion, saying - "I wish him to be brought up in Church of England".

      John was supposedly attending St Phillips school at Church Hill in Sydney, he was able to read & write.

      At the time John gave the following statement:
      "I used to play truant from school with other boys, never stayed out. Was taken up ??. I was with some boys who stole a watch they let me go. My father had me ? here - I know a few of the boys here. I never sold papers and never did any work. I am the eldest - the others are at school.

      Appearance
      Stupid. Looks older than he is. Filthy and neglected.


    Admission record_John Edwards
    Admission record_John Edwards
    Name Jack 
    Residence 1899  Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Residence 1932  Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Residence 1933  Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Residence 1934  Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Residence 1935  Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Residence 1936  Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    • 1937, Also appears - Irene May Edwards - no record of marriage to Irene
    Died 12 Oct 1965  Balmain, Leichhardt, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [10
    Buried 14 Oct 1965  North Ryde, Ryde, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [11
    • The following notification was published:

      EDWARDS. - The Funeral of the late Mr. JOHN EDWARDS of Mollymook, will leave the Allan Walsh Funeral Home, 180 Pacific Highway, Hornsby (opposite Fire Station), This Day (Thursday), at 11 a.m., for the Northern Suburbs Cemetery.
    Person ID 79100596  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 26 Feb 2021 

    Father John Edward,   b. About 1849, Lisbon, Lisbon, Lisbon, Portugal Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 01 Dec 1928, Willoughby, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years) 
    Mother Amy Eliza Payne,   b. 09 Jan 1851, Islington, Greater London, England, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Oct 1940, Oberon, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 89 years) 
    Married 04 Jul 1881  Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [12, 13
    Address:
    George Street 
    • Bethel House
    Marriage_John Edward & Amy Payne
    Marriage_John Edward & Amy Payne
    Residence (Fam) Watsons Bay, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [13
    Residence (Fam) North Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [14
    Family ID 37517205  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 23 Mar 1882 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsEducation - Address:
    The Sobraon - Between 16 Aug 1895 and May 1897 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
    Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1899 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1932 - Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1933 - Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1934 - Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1935 - Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1936 - Mount Werong, Oberon, New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 12 Oct 1965 - Balmain, Leichhardt, New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 14 Oct 1965 - North Ryde, Ryde, New South Wales, Australia Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 

  • Sources 
    1. [S193] The Sydney Morning Herald (Newspapers.com), The Sydney Morning Herald; Publication Date: 1 Nov 1940; Publication Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia; URL: https://www.newspapers.com/image/124103300/?article=5c4d56bb-1501-4c44-ab05-d4fa04576f81&focus=0.027698236,0.27873266,0.15455595,0.30774137&xid=2378.

    2. [S319] AUS, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980, Ancestry.com, (Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980).

    3. [S105] New South Wales, Australia, Entrance Books for the Vernon and the Sobraon, 1867-1911, Ancestry.com, State Archives NSW; Series: NRS 3902; Item: 8/1747; Roll: 2888.

    4. [30601024] NSW; Death; Amy Payne, NSW Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages, (NSW Death registration), 1940/25230., No. 25230 (Reliability: 2).

    5. [63866856] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922).

    6. [70184578] NSW, Death, John Edwards, NSW Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages, (NSW Death registration), 18340., 18340 (Reliability: 2).

    7. [S102] AUS, NSW, Entrance Books for the Vernon and the Sobraon, 1867-1911, accessed; 3 October 2020; admission record for John Edward (Reliability: 2).

    8. [S11] AUS; NSW; Births, Deaths & Marriages Index; Online, NSW Registry of Births Deaths & Marriages, accessed; 3 October 2020; birth of John Edward (Reliability: 2).
      EDWARD JOHN 1088/1882 JOHN AMY ELIZA SYDNEY

    9. [S319] AUS, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980, Ancestry.com, (Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980), 2 January 2021; John Edwards (Reliability: 2).

    10. [S11] AUS; NSW; Births, Deaths & Marriages Index; Online, NSW Registry of Births Deaths & Marriages, 1 January 2021; Jack Edwards.
      EDWARDS JOHN 34457/1965 UNKNOWN AMY BALMAIN

    11. [S193] The Sydney Morning Herald (Newspapers.com), Funerals; 14 October 1965; Page 14; 1 January 2021 (Reliability: 2).

    12. [86034496] NSW; Marriage; John Edward; Amy Payne, NSW Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages, (NSW Marriage register), 904. (Reliability: 3).

    13. [61077161] NSW, Birth, Amy Edward, NSW Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages, (NSW Birth registration), 9010., 9010 (Reliability: 2).

    14. [S319] AUS, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980, Ancestry.com, (Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980), accessed; 16 October 2020; Electoral Rolls (Reliability: 2).
      District of Willoughby



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